Aliens - Extra-Terrestrials, what do you think about them? Are they real? Do they exist? Will we ever come into contact with them? Will it be in our life times? ect. ect. so one so forth DISCUSS OR ELSE
I think extraterrestrial living creatures can exist, but I doubt they are humanoid. I mean, I think they can either be like non-humanoid monsters, or be tiny.
If their enviroent is similar to our own, evolution should predict that they would be similar to our own planet's stuff. Intelligent life isn't exactly garanteed
Buut.. then again... what do we really know? Everything we believe, science, religion ect. could all be false, especially things that arent 'proven', such as space (galaxies, the universe ect.) and things to do with time and evolution ect. What if one day we meet an advanced alien race, and they prove that everything we 'know' is, in fact wrong? No one can ever know anything for certain, if you think about it... no one can ever be certain about anything...
But then again, you might just need to be crazy to see from this point of view....
AANNYYWAY, for now i agree with THY, partially, because, according to most/some humans (particularly scientists), the huminiod form is the... most efficient form of life if that makes sence... buuut... id personally think that extra-terrestrial life (most of it) would be insect-like creatures, 'cause if you think about it then insects are really some of the most efficient creatures on our planet (im not explaining why for u unless u ask... im too... tired, its like... somerandomamountoftime), just they're a bit... small, and quite, somewhat unintelligent, just so its fair on us otherwise we'd be the ones struggling to survive after THEY have started the whole global warming thing with their whole 'intelligent life' & 'we rule the world' shtich, rather than us, but... but... OH GOD look how much ive written... HOLY **** LOOK AT THE TIME!!!... WTF SOMEONE COMMENTED ON MY LINK ON FACEBOOK.... oh i love this music... FOR THE FROG EMPIRE!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously now. Ok think about it for a minute. Out of all the planets in this system, and the ones we know of, Earth is the only planet with life. TO get life at all. And Out of all the life forms here, we as humans are the only ones to be like, you know, be like us, technology and thinking higher and stuff. The chances of finding another planet with even life are so low, but then one with life that is intelligent like us is maybe millions to one. BUt then earth is the only one weith life so why would you base aliens on us? We dont know if humanoid or insectoid or reptillian aliens would exist, maybe those forms of life are exclusive. Its a big universe, the chances of life in the first place, then life that would be intelligent are extremely small. BUt also chances of life resembling anything we know at all. They could be silicone based life forms, they could be care bear bar stools for all we know thats what they could look like. Thats why something like Avatar is so much of a lie. Becaukse the chances of things like that existing are miiniscule to the point of infinity. Although, I do wish something else is out there. There has to be, we cant be the only life forms, earth. Would make this place seem less lonely.
Think about that though, if the small chances happen. Halo anyone? Intergalactic war. Cause humans cant even get along with themselves, we aren't very tolerant.
-- Edited by WinstonShnozwick on Wednesday 7th of April 2010 07:12:45 AM
If we are to assume that only a planet similar to our own could support life then we should expect similar animals. All across the world different versions of the same animal have evolved independently (and from seperate roots) giving us two super similar things like the beaver and the European version (taipur or something). Macro Evolution is based off of chance mutations, however in the end the only ones that last are the beneficial changes, which have been reflected in our own ecosystems
Silicon is a metalloid so it couldn't really support an organic organism. Tbh it would be pretty difficult for Anything but carbon to support life.
Intelligent life is very unlikely, and if we are to find another intelligent race then we will probably be either at their level of tech or be far ahead of them. Because technological advance increases exponentially, meaning that if they were at all ahead they would probably be massively ahead and would have found us first.
Yes yes, but what you dont see is exactly HOW ENORMOUS even just this Universe is (according to humans), ok i cant find what i was gonna copy & paste, but believe me, its big. Also, time is another factor, they say something wiped the dinosours out, that was, like billions of years ago, then also the dinosaurs had been evolving since ---- million/billion years ago. We've, not us personally, but the human race has been aroud for how long? 10,000 years tops. Thats just going from the birth of OUR planet, but others could, and would be far older, that AND what if they weren't set back millions of years (evolution-wise), by some super massive mass extinction of most creatures on Earth. Apart from frogs. They didnt die.
About Halo, funny u should mention that, 'cause i went 'cleaning' up my favourites tab and i found all this old halo music ive saved there, so im now listening to it... creepy stuff, some of it...
There's only one universe (probably...) and while it is seemingly infinitely big it is limited. If a civilization had a million year headstart ombudsman they could easily have found us by now
Yeah thy, but they might just not have found us, or we could be found already by intelligent life and just not know it. But honestly, there can NOT be no other life in this universe, it just cant be, I do believe there is life out there, just not found. Intelligent or like us though, maybe not.
And speaking of how large the universe is, as crazy as it sounds, this may be only one small part. There could be multiple dimensions, existing simultaniously as layers on top of each other, and we have no idea. The thing is that we just arent there yet.
I shall now begin to bombard you with all the usual questions;
How do u know theres only one Universe? Why would there be only one Universe? What is at the edge of the Universe then? blablablaaa ect. ect.
In conclusion, there must either be infinite whatever at the edge of the one universe, or infinite universes, either seems quite impossible in they eyes of a human...
And yes, Winston is right, they would/could/have found us now, we just dont know it. For all we know we could be living something like matrix, if uv seen it, or invisible Elites could be studying our species, depending on your imagination and... dare i say... level of madness... buuuuuutt... yeah. Im just saying that humans dont know infinit amount of things, and know very little... uh im soo tired...
Brilliant! But Universes (Universi??? Universe-- That just dont sound right) aren't, like, things themselves, you know, they're just a collection of galaxies, which are a collection of solar systems, which are a collection of planets and star(s), and there are quite considerable distances between the planets/solarsystems/galaxies, so if two Universes collided, it'd only really be a problem when the actual planets themselves collide, of course, if human science is correct, then there are super massive black holes in the centre of each Galaxy, so that might be a problem... but, in any case, it'd only be a problem to us if something actually collided with our puny little planet, or our planet 'collided' with a sun, in which case we'd all die anyway (we'd also all die horribly), or, finally, if our planet was sucked into a black hole, which, unless the Daleks have devised some terribly evil scheme, wont be happening in, say, a few million years at least.... though, considering gravity and all that, the very least it would do it would... uhhh... most likely... disrupt other solar systems resulting in planets moving away/towards the sun(s), which, either way would destroy all life on the planet, but, a much bigger problem, who's to say that each Universe has its own gravitational field, like everything else in the known existance, then, it'd become far more complex, buuutt... in conclusion... if two Universes were to collide, id say any planets that weren't destroyed, most likely were pulled together by their own gravity, and either collided, or became a miny Galaxy/Universe, but then again new Universes are being created all the time, just as, most likely, other Universes are colliding, so, id probly think that oneday, in a VERY EXTREMELY ANCIENTLY MASSIVELY SUPERBLY long time, yes, our Universe will cease to exist... enough said...for now...
The universe is expanding, but you are correct I'm tht it is not some mass that's growing, it's energy. Now if two nearly infinite forces were to collide, Newton tells us there would be an opposite reaction, which unless the two were equal would result in one universe overridig the other. However energy has no mass to absorb the reflective force so the two energies would be like detonating a bomb in a small space, the force would move outwards. However this universe is expanding in the third dimension so there would be continuous contacts and more compression, which would probably cause a sort of rubber band effect that would slingshot all of the energy in the universe back to the center.
You copied and pasted or you used wikipedia or something... either way you could NEVER have written that on your own... EVER...
Either way you dont know why there would be an opposite reaction... you cant explain why or how, only whatever, point is that i dont give on bout newton's laws buuuuut... if there are multiple galaxies then, either their infinit, in which case life will never end, or you still have to explain to me what is at the edge of these universes...
Anyway, the explosion would never reach ALL of the Universes and such ect. etc. but... mindblank... uhhhh... oh sh*t... uhhhhmmmmm... *sigh*... ill just have to finish  this off later... oh, yes... but thats how scientists reckon the entire of existance started, a Big Bang then it turned into what we have today... so i wouldnt end life, just, it'd just tempererily... disable/setback life, but no, not destroy it... -- Edited by somerandomdude on Wednesday 7th of April 2010 06:10:08 PM
-- Edited by somerandomdude on Wednesday 7th of April 2010 06:12:16 PM
-- Edited by somerandomdude on Wednesday 7th of April 2010 06:15:14 PM
I do know why it would happen, it's the most famous law of physics. Every action has an opposite and equal reaction (or something, the concept is simple)
you're also using galaxies as a synonym for univereses. There are billions of galaxies, probably only one universe.
The edges of the universe is outward spreading kinetic energy
if two universes hypothetically collided nothing we know about would remain, as they would implode. What happens afterword is speculation
Think about it like this. I dont have professional knowlege but still, human science and reasoning may not be right. Because its not just not being good enough to know stuff, we just dont know what else there may be, so we cant know anything else. There may be hundreds of other laws of physics, elements and such, that we dont have. Alot of stuff science says is only based off what earth has. We dont have it all, we dont know what everything is. There could be everything or nothing out there.
You can't argue with newtons law... It's a simple concept, and it is universal. I might be wrong on the specifics of two universes colliding bu the results would end with at least one universe destroyed, and probably both.
As far as normal physics go, it is unlikely that there are many other laws to be discovered. To have a law there needs to be some unexplained action that is taking place. Sure you can get into dark matter, and ghos particles but these have a minimal effect in the natural world
And I just thought, mankind could get so much farther if we could harness and use the power of black holes. Black holes contain unimaginable amounts of power, and being able to control them would be amazing.
edit: when that happened, if mankind or another alien race was fighting us, we would all go to hell, black hole weaponry.
-- Edited by WinstonShnozwick on Thursday 8th of April 2010 04:40:07 PM
A black hole is a super condensed point of matter, it's just really freaking dense stuff jammed together sorht it has enough gravity to pull in light. But your right about the energy. Although it would take a lot more energy than we can imagine to harness a black hole. If we were to somehow do this I imagine it'd be like a giant nuclear reactor. The problem with that is that it would be like splitting an atom the size of the sun (probably a lot more actually). And if one hydrogen atom contains enough energy to destroy a city...
Hey, in halo, why do people call the covenant the cuvenant? It sounds so... stupid... I just call it THOSE BRUTES... the little pipsqueaks.... the pure shining living creatures of awesomness in armour (elites)... WATCH OU-- (scarabs)
-- Edited by somerandomdude on Friday 9th of April 2010 05:50:20 AM
Hmm, I havent been educated in atomic or nuclear stuff like that thy, but I have really wondered how you can get so much energy by splitting a tiny atom. Doesnt make much sense to me.
holy crud, this is a serious convo. Somerandomdude +1 for starting it
Fear my epileptic dinosaur.
